ImminentChangesCamp

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Welcome to ImminentChangesCamp

Contents

Attendees

Topic Ideas

  • What gives meaning to John A's life, what are his core values, where does he want to be soon?
  • What is the "great work" we are called to do together?
  • LifeMaps
  • How do we know we have done something?
    • We can move an item down to a new section and do it's notes there. Or am i not getting your question?
      • I might be asking what more we have done or can do.←
  • Reworking is not a technological question but a social question.
    • we get to define the process
    • Expectation of deferral to the page maintainer



    • Rest/Ajax infrastructure for Unified Wiki (about us) /WagN Lewis Hoffman

New User Interfaces to Open Editing Environments

  • Wikipedia data ... can see all the things that are linked
  • Things in the browse realm
  • Lot's of kinds of relationships between cards (if we could go 3D ...)
  • Hoping to spark a "I've seen this out there" etc or an I want this to exist
  • Not limited to wiki
  • What have you seen out there?
    • network browser www.visualthesaurus.com
    • The brain
    • touchgraph
    • table talk
    • Developer's virtual world
    • Tag Cloud
    • Second life
    • Beth Novack at the Medialab ... hoard of interfaces on the do tank
    • zig zag (Ted Nelson)
    • bumptop ... not pile interface
  • What interfaces do you want?
    • Venn interface
    • Simultaneous Editing
    • Published Queries ... sharing your query with others ... queries can have URIs ... across (backlinks is a query we're familiar with)
    • Timeline visualizer for history actions (Mediawiki semantic web stuff already has something available)

Venn Interface

See Venn Interface

Page Maintainer

  • Challenges with some people specializing as ... dumper ins ... some as page editors ... how do we get maintainers
  • Stuff doesn't get organized ... citizendium
  • Who is qualified to rework it, what part am I going to maintain, what part are you going to maintain (benevolent dictator doesn't work)
  • You can call yourself the page maintainer ... which means that there is an expectation of deferral to the page maintainer
  • Faciliation is a strong part of it ... community organizing
    • You need a secretary ... someone taking notes
  • What parts will you do and which parts will I do
  • People are uncomfortable without structure and order ... the tyranny of structurelessness ... we do want some structure but those who are stuck in the "open" phase will resist it
  • What are the roles for things larger than a page ... someone might take on a tag (like birthdays)

Local Names

Linking to anywhere with short urls

Existing tools (open source)

  • word press plugin
  • oddmuse
  • greasemonkey
  • redirection server
  • my local names

transitioning from plaintext format to html

InterWikiLink-- meatbal:rc --> http://..../rc NearLink

Trusted link language

John wants to specify in one place all the relationships between his wiki and other wikis-- sister sites, local names list of wikis

local names is more than just names: specify relations of names and relations to other wikis so could be used to implement sister sites.

use ln-nearlink for nearlinks; allows for microformat layering

Lion is implementing this: he needs: testing blogging feedback

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