ImminentChangesCamp
From RCC 2007
Welcome to ImminentChangesCamp
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Attendees
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Topic Ideas
- What gives meaning to John A's life, what are his core values, where does he want to be soon?
- What is the "great work" we are called to do together?
- LifeMaps
- How do we know we have done something?
- We can move an item down to a new section and do it's notes there. Or am i not getting your question?
- I might be asking what more we have done or can do.←
- We can move an item down to a new section and do it's notes there. Or am i not getting your question?
- Local Names 2
- SisterSites - general, user-level
- Name spaces
- WikiSym
- RoCoCo
- RecentChangesCamp ... let's make some plans
- Ensuring Documents come out of RecentChangesCamp 2007 sessions
- PageMaintainer policy on CommunityWiki
- Came from the idea that people have about wiki information, that it is magically organized.
- and people think of Wiki = suburbia of pages.
- Came from the idea that people have about wiki information, that it is magically organized.
- Reworking is not a technological question but a social question.
- we get to define the process
- Expectation of deferral to the page maintainer
- based on the work of LynwoodBrown's Wiki Facilitation
- Tyranny of Structurlessness brought up as well as Spiral Dynamics
- Process Arts (& Process Artists)
- Software Development
- Emerging Futures Network (Julie)←
- Rest/Ajax infrastructure for Unified Wiki (about us) /WagN Lewis Hoffman
- Venn Interface
- Networked Simulation Environments** Networked Simulation Environments** Semantic Networks for Search ( http://www.communitywiki.org/en/SemanticNetworksForSearch ) -- wagn
- Process Arts WagN (as an example of WagN's core functionality - wiki is to word processing as WagN is to database)* Hooze in AboutUs?*
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New User Interfaces to Open Editing Environments
- Wikipedia data ... can see all the things that are linked
- Things in the browse realm
- Lot's of kinds of relationships between cards (if we could go 3D ...)
- Hoping to spark a "I've seen this out there" etc or an I want this to exist
- Not limited to wiki
- What have you seen out there?
- network browser www.visualthesaurus.com
- The brain
- touchgraph
- table talk
- Developer's virtual world
- Tag Cloud
- Second life
- Beth Novack at the Medialab ... hoard of interfaces on the do tank
- zig zag (Ted Nelson)
- bumptop ... not pile interface
- What interfaces do you want?
- Venn interface
- Simultaneous Editing
- Published Queries ... sharing your query with others ... queries can have URIs ... across (backlinks is a query we're familiar with)
- Timeline visualizer for history actions (Mediawiki semantic web stuff already has something available)
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Venn Interface
See Venn Interface
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Page Maintainer
- Challenges with some people specializing as ... dumper ins ... some as page editors ... how do we get maintainers
- Stuff doesn't get organized ... citizendium
- Who is qualified to rework it, what part am I going to maintain, what part are you going to maintain (benevolent dictator doesn't work)
- You can call yourself the page maintainer ... which means that there is an expectation of deferral to the page maintainer
- Faciliation is a strong part of it ... community organizing
- You need a secretary ... someone taking notes
- What parts will you do and which parts will I do
- People are uncomfortable without structure and order ... the tyranny of structurelessness ... we do want some structure but those who are stuck in the "open" phase will resist it
- What are the roles for things larger than a page ... someone might take on a tag (like birthdays)
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Local Names
Linking to anywhere with short urls
Existing tools (open source)
- word press plugin
- oddmuse
- greasemonkey
- redirection server
- my local names
transitioning from plaintext format to html
InterWikiLink-- meatbal:rc --> http://..../rc NearLink
Trusted link language
John wants to specify in one place all the relationships between his wiki and other wikis-- sister sites, local names list of wikis
local names is more than just names: specify relations of names and relations to other wikis so could be used to implement sister sites.
use ln-nearlink for nearlinks; allows for microformat layering
Lion is implementing this: he needs: testing blogging feedback











